[Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge

[John Atkins]

That works fine.  One point about the shoot though is that an archer
does not have to group their arrows at the center of the target.  Hence
the name Easy Grouping.  The value here is that if an archer can group
their shafts then all they need to do for higher scores is change their
aiming point.

cog

-----Original Message-----
From: james.kriebel at gmail.com [mailto:james.kriebel at gmail.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathas
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 12:46 PM
To: John Atkins; Eli; archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge


My plan for this was to take a nail and tie a six inch string to it.
That way I could push the nail into the center, and any arrow it touches
is good.

Jonathas

On 12/31/08, John Atkins <cogworks at triad.rr.com> wrote:
> Siegfried,
> The intent was for the archer to choose which three arrows that would 
> if connected with lines form a triangle.  The center of that triangle 
> determines a center point for the circle from which to measure.  In my

> experiements with this shoot I simply define which three arrows 
> determine the center then use a ruler butted against that "center" to 
> measure with.  Admittedly the measuring here is not as exact as the 
> rings on our Royal Round target faces.
>
> Let me know if this helps to clarify and if so, I'll amend the rules 
> thus.
>
> cog
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eli [mailto:eli at eliw.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 11:39 AM
> To: Jonathas; John Atkins
> Subject: Re: [Archers] Atlantian Seasonal Challenge
>
>
> Jonathas & COG ... Mind clarifying this for me?
>
> Reading this, I get very confused ... and it may not just be me.
>
> The rules state to 'choose 3 arrows to form a center to measure a 
> circle from'.
>
> Does this mean you are making THREE 3" radius circles?  Or somehow 
> using 3 shafts together as a circle?  (Doing high math trying to 
> figure out the 'center' of those three shafts)
>
> You might need to clarify that ... I think that you mean THREE circles

> (I think), because the other option seems to be far too complicated. 
> However the description says 'a circle' ... as in one.
>
> Confusedly Yours,
> Siegfried
>
>
> Jonathas wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Thanks for pointing out the glitch.  I'll get the What's Next fixed 
>> so
>
>> the rules show like they are supposed to.
>>
>> In the mean time here is what it will say tomorrow....
>>
>> *Shoot Begins:* Thursday, January 1, 09
>> *Shoot Ends:* Tuesday, March 31, 09
>> *Scores must be Submitted by:* Friday, April 3, 09
>>
>> *Rules:*
>> Archers will shoot 3 ends of 10 arrows each at a distance of 20 
>> yards.
>
>> After each end is shot, the archer will determine which three arrows 
>> will define a "center" from which to measure a 3 inch radius (6 inch
>> diameter) circle. Any arrow either in or touching the circle gains 
>> one
>
>> point. Any shaft stuck in the frame of the butt or in the ground does

>> not count even if "technically" inside the measured circle (i.e. the 
>> "center" of the circle is very low on the butt). Maximum possible 
>> score per end is 10, 30 for the entire shoot. The purpose of this 
>> shoot is to practice grouping shafts. Any butt may be used and a 
>> target face is not required. All three ends must be shot 
>> consecutively. That is you may not practice between ends. This shoot 
>> will have two divisions, crossbow and handbow. Handbow includes all 
>> longbows and recurves. NOTE: If there is a tie at the end of this 
>> shoot (one each for crossbow and handbow), there will be two week 
>> shoot off. The shoot off will be of a similar nature, slightly 
>> modified. If there remains a tie after the two week shoot off, the 
>> winners share the bragging rights!
>>
>> In Service,
>> Jonathas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 11:57 PM, ndcsive <ndcsive at cox.net 
>> <mailto:ndcsive at cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Can anyone tell me what the next Seasonal Challenge is? I can see
> on the
>>     website that it is listed under "What's Next", and it is called
> Easy
>>     Grouping but can't read what the rules or anything for it are
> because it
>>     comes and says that the shoot hasn't started. Shouldn't I be able
> to see
>>     what the next shoot is going to be before it starts? So I know if
> I have
>>     to get or make a target for it? and also see when the shoot
> starts? I
>>     thought maybe to see it I would have to sign on as a marshal but 
>> I
> did
>>     and I still can't.
>>
>>     Esperanza
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