[Archers] Sponsored Shoot at Pennsic

[John Atkins]

First off I really like the idea that Atlantia is willing to lead the
way in this effort.  As for the shoot, Pennsic has the Masters Shoot for
which many aspire to and are seriously bummed if they don't make a team.
It IS the elitist shoot.  I'm thinking this proposal was to create a
populace shoot.  Thus if we leave it to the archers to form three person
teams then it would work.  I would add but one caviot to the "leave it
to them" suggestion.  Limit the number of times each archer can be a
member of a shooting team.  Thus Joey Shootemstraight only gets to be a
member of one team and thus shoot the challenge only once.  That would
prevent a sharp shooter like Seamus from being on every team (not that
Seamus would do that!).  

If I may make one suggestion here and that would pertain to some shoots
but perhaps not all.  At SAAD one thing I tried very hard to do was
create an atmosphere where every archer stood the chance to win.  Thus
one station, known only to me the MIC, was a qualifier station.  Your
score there determined which class you would be in.  Of course your
score at that station also entered into your overall score for the day.
But it created the ability for novice archers to compete against novice
archers while seasoned archers competed against seasoned archers.  That
way everyone stood a chance of winning something.  I came upon this idea
when I heard some archers once say at a shoot "Oh why bother, that
person is here".  I think everyone should have a chance to win.  But
like I said a multiple station shoot is required to make something like
this work and that may not be the type of shoot others have in mind.
Just something to think about.

cog

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Subject: Re: [Archers] Sponsored Shoot at Pennsic


Whoa, folks!

As Lorelei pointed out, this should be something for everyone, not
another champions shoot.  It sounds great, but not if it 
gets elitest.  The original suggestion was for something everyone could
do, or so I interpreted it.  Let's not limit it.  Better a 
first come, first entered for each kingdom (and that is only if you want
to limit the main entrants to 1/kingdom).  If a kingdom wants to build
an uber-team and make arrangements within itself to be the first to sign
up, then fine, but lets keep it open.

Dealla

-----------------------------------

Sounds like a great idea! Count me in any way you need me, as long as I
get to shoot the thing at least once.
 
We could use diffiernt theme each year.  There have been some terrific
themed shoots in Atlantia over the years.
 
A hunt, a woods battle, there are several mythological themes that we
could use, even dare I say it Greg's Lord of the Rings shoot.
 
As for the Atlantia team just have the Kingdom Champion select his team
from the atlantian archers trying for the Champions team at Pennsic.
Those are generally the better archers who are at pensic. If the Kingdom
Chanpion is unavaliable let the Kindgom Archery Marshal select the team
during the tryouts for the chanpions shoot.  Those of us who do not get
selected for the "A" team can then form our own teams for the next day. 
 
Allen



Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 17:35:52 -0500
From: Jonathas at redfoxden.org
To: archers at atlantia.sca.org
Subject: Re: [Archers] Sponsored Shoot at Pennsic

Great questions all!

I would like to setup the shoot in a sustainable way, that is that it
does not burn a single person out, and like wise at any moment if
Mundane Life kidnaps any one person the shoot will continue to run with
little interruption.  So, I would propose a small group to manage the
shoot, say three people from all ends of the kingdom so that one of them
has seen each of the suggested targets, and can select which will be
used, and which will be backups (in case someone can't show or a target
falls apart or whatever), as well select the theme for the year. 

If we put it as Atlantia challenging all the other Kingdoms, then each
Kingdom's "A" team should get first crack at the shoot (before the
targets get too beat up), then yes the shoot would be opened to the
entire known world.  My thought was if the team wants to compete for the
big prize, then it has to have one of each bow type.  However to
encourage all to come play, teams that don't met the bow requirements
can still shoot.  This would allow 3 random archers at the range to form
a team and go shoot for fun.  The goal would be to challenge the
kingdoms, but not make it elitist like the Masters is.

Each kingdom could form its "A" team however it sees fit.  For Atlantia,
I would recommend the Kingdom Champion, then fill the other two bow
types from the rest of the 8 finalists using the highest scoring in each
type.

I also like the idea of having prize arrows for the winning team,
besides just choosing the charity to receive the money.

My 2c,
Jonathas



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