[Atlantia-Announce] From the Society College of Arms - March 2015 Name/device RETURNS
Craig via Announce
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Mon May 11 15:06:43 PDT 2015
These are the RETURNS from the March 2015 Letter of Acceptances and
Returns from the Society College of Arms.If your name and/or device are
listed on here, please contact your consulting herald to assist you in
making the necessary changes and resubmitting.
Elspeth de Iarsay. Device. Per pale indented argent and sable, a heart
counterchanged.
This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states
"Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." As drawn the indented line
of division renders the upper and lower part of the heart difficult to
identify. The fact that both the upper and lower part of the heart are
difficult to identify renders the charge unidentifiable; some commenters
thought it a seeblatt or some other charge. On redraw, a shallower
indentation might help.
Mad Davy de Iarsay. Device. Per pale indented sable and argent, a heart
counterchanged.
This device is returned for redraw, for violating SENA A2C2 which states
"Elements must be drawn to be identifiable." As drawn the indented line
of division renders the upper and lower part of the heart difficult to
identify. The fact that both the upper and lower part of the heart are
difficult to identify renders the charge unidentifiable; some commenters
thought it a seeblatt or some other charge. On redraw, a shallower
indent might help.
Martelle von Charlottenburg. Badge. (Fieldless) An escallop inverted Or
crowned with a pearled coronet and joined at the hinge to an arrow
fesswise reversed vert.
This badge is returned for multiple conflicts. Per the current rules,
the the coronet is a maintained charge and doesn’t provide a DC.
Therefore, and because there is no DC for changing the type of seashell,
this submission conflicts the Heralds’ Seals of Triton Herald,
(Tinctureless) A triton-shell trumpet bell in chief . There is a DC for
fieldless versus tinctureless but nothing for adding the coronet and
arrow. Per the same count, it also conflicts with the badge of Ian James
of Silverlake, (Fieldless) A whelk shell fesswise Or, and the badge of
the Order of the Whelk of the Barony of Tir-y-Don, Gyronny argent and
azure, a whelk, bell in chief, Or.
This submission was pended on December 2014 Letter of Acceptance and
Return to allow a discussion of our standards for difference regarding
maintained & sustained conjoined charges. Please see the Cover Letter
for information about the proposed updated standards.
Ragnarr Haraldsson. Name.
Submitted as Ragnarr Haraldarson, the genitive (possessive) form of the
father’s name in the
patronym was corrected in kingdom. Unfortunately, the name is now
identical to the registered Ragnarr Haraldsson and must be returned.
His device has been registered under the holding name Ragnarr of
Nottinghill Coill.
Scholastica Joycors. Device. Azure, a sun Or charged with a decrescent
azure both issuant from an open book argent.
This device is returned for redesign. With the book overlapping on one
side both the sun and the tertiary crescent issuing from it, the book is
de facto partially a quaternary charge. Barring documentation for such
an arrangement, it is not registerable.
-Cian Triton
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